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  • Just a note on how {{C}} works. Entering "Blackhawk #160" and "Blackhawk Vol 1 160" generate identical links. You do not need to, and really shouldn't, replace "#<issue>" with "Vol 1 <issue>" since this is a nul edit.

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  • There is a reference to Rori Dag being 38,000 years BC if we use logic in Green Lantern v2 # 90. In Pre-Crisis, the first Green Lanterns wore pistols. In Green Lantern Vol 2 90 three of these Proto- green Lanterns chase a criminal named Jinn to Earth, where an accident with a power battery and a thunderbolt puts the four in animation suspended for 40,000 years. Since these "green lanterns" knew they were predecessors of the Green Lantern Corps, they must have known about the creation of the Green Lanterns around this time, making them among the last of the proto-Green Lanterns.

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    • There is one major problem with that and it is the same problem Action Comics #353: there are things in Earth-One continuity that contradict the statements being made in that issue.

      For example, Crisis on Infinite Earths #7 page 10 panels 6-7 give the sequence as Manhunters then Green Lantern Corp with NO references to any group between the two. More over Crisis on Infinite Earths #7 established that the controllers and Guardians had split after the creations of the Green Lantern Corp and then (9 billion years ago) the Anti-monitor and Monitor were "born".

      If we use what is presented in Crisis on Infinite Earths #7 then logically the Green Lantern Corp of Earth-One had to be at least 9 billion years old.

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    • Not exactly. what I think there was that Harbinger was making a summary; she would not necessarily have to allude to each of the Green Lantern Corps phases (after all, the Psions were not mentioned in that story either). In addition, even with billion years of separate evolution, the Controllers and Guardians still have their similarities (some similar powers, humanoid form). That story doesn't any mentions to WHEN the two races split off.

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    • Except in one of the "Tales of the Green Lantern Corps" stories (not to be confused with the miniseries or annual of the same name) there was Joanquin who was a Green Lantern for 2.5 billion years which clearly kicks the claim made in Green Lantern (Volume 2) #90 in the head.

      Even stuff as old as Green Lantern (Volume 2) #40 shows the sequence as create Green Lantern Corp and then evolve into the Guardians of the Universe (pg 10)

      Ki-nilg, who has a cameo in that issue, is later revealed to have become a Green Lantern 5 million years ago.

      Furthermore, it was stated elsewhere that Rori Dag became a Green Lantern over three billion years ago.

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  • Hey, sorry to bother you. I realize it's a year old, now, but this edit you made to New Earth added this sentence:

    It should be noted that things Hypertime and Superboy-Prime trying to escape from the paradise he was in at the end of Crisis resulted in some aspects of New Earth history changing.
    I was going to tidy it up grammatically when I realized I wasn't entirely sure what you were trying to say there, so I didn't want to reword it and risk altering the meaning. I was wondering if you'd be willing to give it another pass for clarity, if you have a moment? Thanks! -- FeRDNYC (talk) 19:29, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
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  • Please rewrite it so it's more consistent with the other ...is confusing articles. It should be called "Timeline", have links, bullet points, and start with years.

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    • That does not magically improve this article. Professional meetings are with people who understand the topic. Museum computerization, impressive though it is, relies on linguistics and/or semiotics in a way that differs from an article that claims to explain a confusing situation. This should be able to be read and understood by a (relative) novice.

      The main body of text works fine (because some of it is copied). The bullet points are the problem. You introduce new information without structuring it, or explaining why it is important. You put the focus at the end of the point, which leaves the reader drowning in uncertainty as to why they're reading all this about Superbaby and capes and stuff.

      If you look at the other ...is confusing articles, you see clear bullet points structuring the timeline. It omits a lot, because it's irrelevant. Like random powers or three different bullet points for Earth-Two-A, which most readers won't learn about without having to navigate to another page. A lot can still be cut and/or reworked.

      I moved the bullet points about the explanation/origin of the powers to a separate section because it would need to be streamlined into a paragraph like the other two poorly formatted ones. It shouldn't be another bullet point, that just distracts from the timeline. These sections could even be put below the timeline.

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    • Ok. But boy Golden age Superman is such a mess that at times I don't know if continuity can even be applied to it and when you get to what some people call the Flux Age (1948-1958) it is even worse.

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  • EWWE is from 2010, five years after AbsCOIE. So Earth-Forty is not a "finally", and "no longer Earth-One" does not apply either.

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    • It's not in #1.

      The first issue also does not mention any continuity or timeline, but mention Wonder Woman being killed in "the Crisis" (or rather, believed to be killed).

      Hippolyta is blond. And uses the Magic Sphere.

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    • That "Wonder Woman being killed in "the Crisis"" is key as the Earth-One Wonder Woman was killed (actually de-aged back to the clay she came from) while the Earth-Two Wonder Woman Steve Trevor were brought to New Earth Olympus via Apollo's Chariot.

      That said Earth-Forty being a hypertime reality explains a lot of the problems...warping events of Earth-One so they get Earth-Two elements.

      I should mention that DC officially abandoned hypertime in 2005 but it was brought back as official in 2015. So EWWE 2010 was written when hypertime wasn't a thing.

      You could even make a joke out of it: 'You thought Post-Crisis Hawkman was a migraine? Well we at DC have a real headache inducing mess for you. Mainly because we can't agree on how our multiverse works nor on how many Earths are in it.'

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  • Talk:Earth-Two-A

    Care to weigh in on the discussion?

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  • Why aren't you adding the {{a| }} to the character appearances in Trinity? Those brackets add them to the appearances category. Is there some weird reason they shouldn't be added?

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  • There is a reason why we conflated that universe into Earth-154. We don't want to create a separate set of categories for that universe. Including that universe's appearances goes against our indexing and if you're going to do that, you might as well start separating them and create new pages for 216. Which you won't because it was decided not to do it.

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    • I have been reading World's Finest #157 and we may want to rethink merging Earth-154 and Earth-216.

      On Earth-154 so many teen agers wear Batman costumes that Bruce thinks nothing about his son going out in costume sans mask. Also flying vehicles are standard. Furthermore Superman, Batman, Kathy, and Lois all have graying temples on Earth-154 while Superman, Batman, and their wives on Earth-216 don't.

      Furthermore on Earth-154 Superman's son is called Kal-El Jr. in private while on Earth-216 even private he is called Clark Kent Jr.

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  • Not every story in a listed issue is necessarily Earth-32, and there's no need to plaster that on every reprint of every story in that issue.

    Just stop. You're taking it too far.

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    • Earth-85 also lists Detective Comics and Power of the Atom stories where the only non-canon thing is a guest appearance of a non-canon character. That doesn't make the entire story Earth-85.

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    • Well for Earth-85 I do have the comment we can't tell if the stories that don't contradict the large continuity happened on New Earth, Earth-85, or both.

      Earth-Thirty-Two was a very close parallel to Earth-One so the same likely was true for Earth-85 in regards to New Earth.

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