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August 2, 2009
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  • Darkseid01
    re: your question
    Darkseid01

    No, Rab is of the opinion that interior pages of comics should not be uploaded to the site.

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  • Raghava Shah
    John Constantine
    Raghava Shah

    Can you add both versions to john Constantine to the category magic.

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  • Kyletheobald
    Character Galleries
    Kyletheobald

    Hey, why create galleries with only one image? Not really much of a point to it if its the same image as the profile picture and the only image in the image category is there? Just curious.

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  • Midoki24
    Missing Templates
    Midoki24
    • Magic

    I'll add more as I see them, few were missing. Not sure if you were aware or not.

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    • Midoki24
      Midoki24

      Just pooled a few of our admin friends and the consensus is the same. Hand-to-Hand Combat (Basic) and (Advanced) will stay as such and appear as such on the pages (both category and character).

      As to what each is or means and how that exists with Martial Arts will be determined later through more research and admin-talk. By all means join in on chat a few times and ask around, we've always got our notes handy.

      And thanks for fixing up the rest of the templates. We can get back to business now.

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    • Byfield
      Byfield

      Basic is fixed and MC now redirects to Advanced.

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  • Midoki24
    Powers and Abilities
    Midoki24

    Your template use is causing certain articles to use double colons. I think you said you fixed the bit so it can be bare and without colons right? As always be careful with your usage of these templates. I see you working hard but it's already gotten messy.

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    • Byfield
      Byfield

      Actually I'm removing the "bare"/colon from the templates then checking the articles to add the colons in. What I've seeing is that some of the templates, which started with the colon included, had one added after the template call in some of the articles.

      That is: Articles were botched by others before I touched the templates and the clean up is on going.

      Though, if you are seeing cases with power templates prior to {{Super-Leaping}}}, let me know. That's where I've gotten to at this point.

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    • Midoki24
      Midoki24

      I'm just offering caution, especially when working so deeply with integral or untested templates. I know you're doing your best and working hard with these specific templates so I'd like to remind you to pop into the chat every know and then so we can know what projects you're working on.

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  • DCFan89
    Message from Mike
    DCFan89

    who do you think you are? lois lane first debut 1938 not 39

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  • Midoki24
    But they're not.
    Midoki24

    They seem appropriate and from an editing standpoint they're highly functional but when it regards this being a wiki where not all the users or editors or even admins have a high proficiency in coding it becomes confusing and cumbersome.

    Basically, using a template to make our jobs easier is fine but when the template becomes too extravagant it impedes the article.

    I'm fully willing and ready to explain my position if necessary. I won't touch the page in question until this is sorted but please refrain from doing so on more pages.

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    • Byfield
      Byfield

      Then I'm really missing something. Is the issue with the content and categories that are added or the actual coding of the template?

      If the issue is with the template adding the content and categories, that seems a base line problem with many, many templates that are in use - including the infoboxes which do multiple category placements. The implication is that using templates to place content and categories is acceptable if not desired.

      If the issue is coding, again it seems a base line problem since a number of very widely used templates with extremely complex coding.

      In a way I think the docs on the template page are more important that coding. I would assume that an average user needs to know how to place the template into an article/page rather than, not necessarily tinker with the coding the template calls. If the docs are clear, and I think they are with {{Power Ring}}, there should not be an issue with the template use in articles.

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    • Midoki24
      Midoki24

      Here's the problem and it isn't with the coding of the template, which I've already mentioned the average user does not know how to edit.

      Categories don't go on the page's editable field, they go in a little box on the right hand side labeled categories.

      And correct me if I'm wrong but the templates for powers and abilities and now for equipment simply adds the correct visuals on the page along with it automatically adding the category.

      It becomes more of a personal matter when deciding whether or not to use the "Template:Template" or manual editing. While obviously the templates make lives a lot easier it doesn't necessarily help when you have to add bare=y and name=charactername to a field where a majority of the other pages lack such editing techniques.

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    • Byfield
      Byfield

      (moving this here since chat seems to have bogged down and I need to log)

      Let me see if I've got the issues straight:

      1. Adding the categories via template in editable fields in another template.
      2. the "bare" parameter
      3. and the "name" parameter

      Does that about cover it?

      '(Midoki24 from chat): The last two are the same issue but essentially yes that covers it.

      OK... I guess the problem I've got with first is that the power, skill, and weakness category templates were more or less already in place an in use before I started working with them.

      '(Midoki24 from chat): They were here but they aren't in use and I actively advocate against them.

      Then Midoki, I'd prefer to see the admins get together and determine if those templates be removed or not in a timely manner.

      I understand it is within your purview as a group to decide how material is added, structure, and presented on here, but this is something that, as best I can tell, has been around for years and was at least partially designed by an admin.

      I'd rather know if this is the consensus of the admins to stop using this method or not. As an editor here I'd go with either based on the group stance, I just don't want to wind up waiting doing neither - using the format or working to remove it - for a long period of time.

      As for the two parameters. If the templates are to be used they can be fixed/removed:

      • "bare" was added to deal with the ":" when additional text is present since the templates had/have the colon as part of them. It would be just as simple to remove the colon or have it conditional on a blank parameter holing text.
      • "character" was an attempt to make sure templated boilerplate-ish text flowed smoothly with an article. If generic text is OK, the parameter isn't needed.
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    • Mrblonde267
      Mrblonde267

      I tried to understand exactly what the dilemma is here and couldn't... I'd be happy to mediate a discussion if you guys are both in chat at the same time at some point again soon.

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