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  • Would famous artists and people like Neil Armstrong be qualified to make a profile on? I’ve already made one for Andy Warhol, but since you removed his appearance from the movie, I would like to know if there’s something wrong about it.

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    • Sorry, I didn't mean to undo Andy Warhol, as the page already existed. I'll fix that.

      For the rest, see the link I referred to (which you may already have done). And you may be right, Neil Armstrong and Leonid Brezhnev and a few others may qualify for pages under #3 (Major Historical Figure), but not all of them...

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    • Are David Bowie and Mick Jagger out of the question?

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    • Personally, I'd say no to them because they are too recent (who knows if rock & roll will even be around in 100 years?), but since we didn't come up with a definition for Major Historical Figure yet, I won't object if you make redlinks for them. (Someone else may, but not me.)

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  • What I'm gonna ask might date a bit, but on the issue Adventure Comics #218, you added this a few years ago:

    This issue of Adventure Comics is considered by some comic indexers to be the first issue to regularly feature the Green Arrow of Earth-One. Other indexers place the dividing line between Earth-Two and Earth-One elsewhere. The DC Comics Database has selected thus issue.

    Do you, by any chance, remember the source of the indexers using #218 as a reference ?

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    • No. I just added that note because Adventure Comics #218 was already where we were making the split, so I figured it needed a note, but because I didn't know the exact reasons I left the note vague. The decision to use that issue as the first Earth-One issue was made in 2011, long before I was here.

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  • Actually that someone saw the movie redlinked everywhere and decided not to let it be a redlink. But I shan't take that jibe personally, as I genuinely did not know how the situation was and the practices were different back then.

    We should probably apply the same logic to the other movie - it's by Spirit Films, LLC, OddLot, Lionsgate and Sony. Pity, there were a lot of nice subjects for Actor Pages in it.

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    • No jibe intended. Licensing and ownership issues are hard to get a handle on.

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    • The only one it affected was Bumper Robinson, and that only removed 1 item. I also tagged the images and categories related to that page for deletion.

      Do you want the Images and Categories tied to the movie article also tagged?

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    • What I meant was, the 2008 movie had such nice actors in it. It was Seychelle Gabriel's first credit.

      We should get rid of images, characters and appearances. And honestly, I think all of it. First Wave might be a problem but that also affects Doc Savage.

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    • I think most Spirit pages should go, but the Earth-Spirit page can be renamed Spirit (franchise) and be the place where we explain the relationship, thru the years, between DC and the Spirit.

      I also think Denny Colt (First Wave) (and any related pages) should stay, as First Wave is (was?) an actual DC universe, and all the characters in it should get pages. This would be similar to how we have a page for Kent Allard (Earth-One) because that version of the Shadow was integrated into Earth-One, but we don't have pages for the Shadow from Shadow Vol 2 or the Shadow from Shadow Strikes Vol 1, because they were in their own non-DC universes.

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  • I'm just asking, but what are the rules for Real People on the list? Should every single one be on the list, or just historical characters that are general knowledge?

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    • Several years ago, I made a draft proposal for rules on which real people get pages (are notable). It can be found here

      The rules were not officially adopted, but I've been following them anyway and no one has hassled me. And it seems others are following them too.

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    • Oh wait, are you talking about the Real People page (and not about which real people get their own pages)? In that case, I think every real person should be listed on Real People, but I've never seen any discussion about it....

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    • Nah, I was talking about both, but thanks for the answer!

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  • hello .v for vendetta and watchmen are they works of vertigo? what do you think about the adaptations planned in serie tv?

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  • Maybe I am just staring myself blind, but I can't for the life of me find any reference to Patrick Wayne (Earth-One) in Detective Comics #412. Where did you see that name pop up?

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  • Hey I'm a little concerned about your note on the Fawcett villains pages. First, I'm not even sure DC owns all those characters. The only thing I've ever seen says that DC bought the Marvel Family and related characters, not the full line and roster. Second, this is a similar note to adapted characters, which I'm not sure is even necessary here. Also, for most of the characters so far, it's the only piece of text on their entire page. I'm curious what others think but I'd hold off on them for now.

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    • Kyletheobald wrote:

      I disagree that DC owning the characters and them acting like they own them is the same thing. While it might not matter for publishing rights, it matters factually. We cover facts, not conjecture. So, I think it's better to not say anything concrete in this case.

      I see what you are saying. My note says DC bought the character in 1991, and that may not be literally true.

      Kyletheobald wrote: To the second point, you're right, it may be a difference of opinion. I think it makes more sense to explain the complexities of Fawcett's relationship with DC on the Fawcett page. That way we don't, for lack of a better word, clutter up hundreds of pages with more or less the same note.

      I do agree that the Fawcett page needs some work. Maybe I will focus my efforts there, and put this project aside for a bit.

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    • UPDATE: Looks like there have been some new Fawcett developments. According to this Facebook post, Fawcett did renew copyrights on their comics, but didn't start until 1977 (when they came under new ownership). So that means that the comics Fawcett published between 1951 and 1953 (when they quit comics) were still under copyright in 1991, when Fawcett sold all their comics properties to DC (and the copyrights are still in force today).

      So what does this mean? Here's some examples:

      • Does DC really own Bill Battle, a character who appeared in Fawcett Comics in 1952-1953? Yes, they do.
      • Does DC really own the Hunchback, a character who appeared in Fawcett Comics in 1941-42? No. Fawcett never renewed the copyright on those comics, so the Huncback fell into the public domain well before 1991.
      • Does DC really own Lance O'Casey, a character who appeared in Fawcett Comics in 1940-1953? Well, it depends. They definitely own those last three years worth of stories. But anyone can reprint the earlier stories, and could theoretically do new Lance O'Casey stories based on just the pre-1951 stories -- but that's hard to do and if they mess up and include material from the later stories DC can step in and sue them, so it's probably not worth doing new Lance O'Casey if you're not DC.
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  • Hey Shadzane I was just wondering if/why you erased my 1863 section from the gotham academy page?

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  • Hey, let's talk about this. The trend with the Real People pages has been to divide them by publishers. (Earth-S) for Fawcett (and Kid Eternity), (Quality Universe) for, well, Quality, (Earth-Four) for Charlton and (New Earth) for mainstream DC.

    I see that you don't like that idea. Maybe a forum discussion is in order? DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 19:25, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Personally, I've always gone for the main DC Earths - New, One and Two - into one, and Four, S and Quality are different.

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    • If someone wants to start a forum discussion, I'm game. Or we could do it over at Talk:Abraham Lincoln (New Earth). Either way.

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    • Would the Earth-Two Adolf Hitler really behave all that differently from the Earth-S or Quality Universe Adolf Hitler? Or Winston Churchill, or Daniel Boone, or Genghis Khan? Multiple versions of Hitler or Robin Hood or Lincoln seems like a pretty redundant thing to have.

      BUT!, then, again, sometimes there are real differences: FDR in the Quality Universe could definitely walk, and FDR in the Earth-Two world could not. It's perplexing.

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  • When tagging characters in images, it's generally better not to tag characters that are mostly cropped out of the image. When I look in a character's image category, I hate seeing images that just consist of one foot or half a shoulder.

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