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Tupka217

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  • I live in The Netherlands
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  • Bio Hi. I'm Tupka, one of the admins here on the DC Wiki, and more or less in charge of the discussions on this app.
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  • I. If Metahuman sucks as a term, what about as an actual species name whenever it comes to real Superhumans as long as their humanity hasn't been fully or almost faded away?

    II. Despite Metahumans have to still count as Humans with supernatural powers and abilities, how come some of them undergo major to severe with their humanity being almost to fully gone and still count as Homo Superiors? Sure, I've seen Superhumans with minor physical changes before like Spider-Man 2099 gaining only retractable talons, fangs, and altered iris colours, and Poison Ivy having her skin colour changed, but quite frankly, for Metahumans to count as what they are, they have to keep their humanity without it being altered, otherwise they would be full-fledged monsters. From the top of my head. Don't get me wrong though, I do know that Metahuman in terms of DC Comics is not a good term whatsoever.

    III. So far, I've stumbled across other kinds of Metahumans, such as godly variants known as Transcendent Homo Superiors, users with both wield magic and superpowers known as Homo Magi Superiors, and especially Non-Genetic Superpowered Humans, which don't need to require genetic engineering to gain superpowers, like having powers bestowed upon by supernatural beings, enchantment, training to obtain abilities like Telekinesis, and among other methods that doesn't involve genetic engineering. Sure, I've also seen Superanimals before but they're just only similar to Metahumans despite the fact they gain powers the same exact ways on how they gain them. Which would be your favourite out of the four?

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  • Posting this here because the original thread was closed before the conversation could actually be finished (I still had a reply from Etrigan waiting, so it wasn't over).

    You literally say before the thread was closed "You disagreeing with one of several standard lines doesn't change your behavior. That's why you were blocked." So according to that I was blocked because I was disagreeing with you? that's what your wording indicates, and the block you had on me indicated it was for gibberish/nonsense in pages, but we both know that's not accurate either, so still, it was a false block, just like the last time was, you know it even if you don't want to admit it. Also, had you paid attention to my other comments in the previous thread you would have noticed that I even state, multiple times in fact, that I'm willing to go fix the "behavior issues" as you put it, I just need to know where they are and what the issues are so I can properly fix them, since you and others indicated in the original thread that it is more than just some minor punctuation and grammar issues. I understand you undid the edits and such, but all you posted was things like "grammar issues" and things like that, or recently with the image I posted, you literally only put "housekeeping", not sure what was wrong with it that you thought it needed to be housekept, as you didn't indicate that in the description, which is he problem, you post small things like that but never expand or clarify on where the grammar issues were or why it needed to be housekept or whatever, which is what I'm asking of you, tell me more than just "grammar issues" or "housekeeping" so that I am able to know what the problem is and be able to go and fix it, I'm willing to, I just need to know what the specific issues are, otherwise, how am I able to fix them?

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    • "So according to that I was blocked because I was disagreeing with you?"

      NOT whatI said/wrote. At all. You're charging at a windmill, and in the process, demonstrate more of said behavior.

      "Housekeeping" is also a standard delete reason. You might think your contribution special, but so much stuff gets deleted or reverted not everything gets a custom message.

      I don't have the patience to hold your hand on everything. None of us are educated in pedagogy, and if we were, this is a volunteer gig.

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  • Sorry, no overkill about his relatives. (reference: Shazam Vol 1 17)

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  • It's been recreated. Just wanted to let you know.

    If Etrigan sees it, you-know-what will rain down upon us all...

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  • The Amazons of Themyscira page is used for both New Earth and Prime Earth. I don't know how much the "Prime Earth Wonder Woman-verse" incorporated the information/retcon, but in The Odyssey of the Amazons Vol 1 4 the origin of the Amazons of Themyscira of Prime Earth differs from the New Earth version.

    To summarize the version provided by The Odyssey of the Amazons Vol 1 4. A group of goddesses (which only includes Hera from the Olympian goddesses) foresaw "a danger from the stars". As the gods didn't take it seriously, the goddesses took it upon themselves to find a solution. They used what would be known as the Graal to pour their "essences"; each drank the resulting liquid so their offspring would all be bound, creating a new race which could face the "danger from the stars". After that, the goddesses took part to each found their own "group". In this case, Hera went to Themyscira and "gave birth" to the Amazons.

    Under such circumstances, should that info/retcon be added as a note ? Adding it within the "history" section seems inappropriate as it is currently mostly relevant for New Earth and not Prime Earth. Maybe the history section needs to be cut between New Earth and Prime Earth ? I have seen someone suggested a separate section on the talk page already, but there was no reply so I am unsure whether that was rejected.

    PS: I hesitated to use the Talk: Amazons of Themyscira as I'm not sure how the "talk:page" work when a "topic" already exists. Should I click on the "edit" button near the title of the topic (in this case next to "Other versions?") or the "edit" button next to "add topic" ?

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  • I messed up on actor identification. File:Courtney Ford Mug 1.jpg needs to be moved to File:Tala Ashe Mug 1.jpg

    Thanks

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  • It is nearly a week since I started a member list of both the Earth-S and Quality Universe Axis members. Do you have any problem with it, and could I keep it?

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  • There's no way I'm making stuff up, it's the truth.

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    • "For a Metahuman to count as what they are, they must appear Human and remain Human, otherwise they would be full-fledged Mutants, as in monsters. "

      Citation needed.

      The only characters explicitly referred to as mutants (not counting the gang) are Captain Comet and Jericho. Not monsters.

      The term metahuman is vague. It's not up to us to make up arbitrary new terms just to make it fit one rigid definition.

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    • Tupka217 wrote: "For a Metahuman to count as what they are, they must appear Human and remain Human, otherwise they would be full-fledged Mutants, as in monsters. "

      Citation needed.

      The only characters explicitly referred to as mutants (not counting the gang) are Captain Comet and Jericho. Not monsters.

      The term metahuman is vague. It's not up to us to make up arbitrary new terms just to make it fit one rigid definition.

      • sigh* Look, I apologize Tupka, I just wanted to improve this wiki, not make it worse, it's also just the fact that if Metahumans go through massive physical changes they would count as monster class Mutants, like Clayface for example. I know this isn't based on DC Comics as a whole, but when William Birkin from Resident Evil II had injected himself with the G-Virus, he had turned into a horrific Mutant, not a Superhuman. Gee, I wish DC Comics would turn things around regarding their own term of Metahuman sometime in the future.
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    • "Mutant" might mean that in the Resident Evil franchise, but it means something completely different in the Marvel universe, for example.

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    • Tupka217 wrote: "Mutant" might mean that in the Resident Evil franchise, but it means something completely different in the Marvel universe, for example.

      I get it now.

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  • Hey, a page for the latest annual of Detective Comics which came out this week still hasn't been made. I'm happy to make it, but I'm unsure how it should be titled; it's published as Annual #1 but obviously we can't use Detective Comics Annual Vol 1 1 as that's taken, so should the page be Detective Comics Annual Vol 1 13, even though it's not published as #13, or should it be Detective Comics Annual Vol 1 1 (2018) or something like that?

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