Talk: Fawcett City

Location

From Wikipedia: "However, in the 1990s series The Power of Shazam!, it was suggested that it was located in Wisconsin, thanks to various clues given by writer Jerry Ordway."

I've went over the series, and gathered the following "clues":

• Mention of the Midwest in #23, #42.
• It's on the lake shore, in the same state as Fairfield, which is 100-150 miles away and also on the shore. Arguably, could also mean Michigan, but rules out Indiana.
• #3: Percy Pill is from Kinnickinnic High in Bay View. There's a Bay View just south of Milwaukee, and one of the two Kinnickinnic Rivers in WI flows near it.
• #6: The area was originally inhabited by Chippewa. Traditionally, the Ojibwe-Chippewa lived in Northern Michigan and Northern Wisconsin.
• Mention of Milwaukee and its breweries in #33, though they're apparently so good this might as well mean nothing.
• Fairfield victims are taken to hospitals in Chicago and Milwaukee in #39.

Anyone think this is suficient/think I missed something? --Tupka²¹⁷ 09:40, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Impressive research. I don't expect that it can be improved upon. I will however point out that #39 also has statements by Cap, Mary and a health professional establishing that Newton Falls (presumably the Ohio city) bordered Fairfield and was close enough to suffer heavily from the concussive wave of that city's destruction. In the real world Newton Falls is close to the eastern border of Ohio. Either this is a different Newton Falls with no direct real Earth counterpart, or Fairfield must be located in Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania or West Virginia (or, at a stretch, Michigan). Even that doesn't really work with the claim that the patients are being sent to Chicago and Milwaukee, though.LuisDantas (talk) 10:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Size

Do we have any idea to the size of Fawcett City? Either in population or square miles? Tzigone (talk) 19:55, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

Not as far as we know. Aged Goblin compiled a pretty comprehensive list, which is obvs not complete, but there's no indication of population. None of the fictional cities have a size mentioned. --Tupka²¹⁷ 20:21, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

There was not Fawcett City in the past

According to Who's Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe Vol 1 11 letter page (1985) "the (Pre-Crisis Captain Marvel) spent some time in New York, but he and the rest of the Marvel Family currently (Crisis on Infinite Earths time) live in Fawcett City". So I don't understand why the location of all the Captain's Pre-Crisis stories being cataloged as Fawcett City, except those that happen during Crisis.Kowalewski (talk) 16:45, September 9, 2020 (UTC)

That should be fixed. Kyletheobald (talk) 18:15, September 9, 2020 (UTC)

However, Who's Who and Crisis were not the only Pre-Crisis (or " during-Crisis") appearances/mentions of Fawcett City. In All-Star Squadron #52, it is retconned that Billy Batson lived in Fawcett City in 1942. This is why he was presumed to have always lived there. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 21:06, September 9, 2020 (UTC)

I tried to edit the page in a way that made this clear: in the Golden Age the Marvel Family lived in an unnamed original city. There was no mention of "Fawcett City", it's true, but it's clear as day that the writers' intention was to not tie the characters to a specific existing city, as every time it had to be the subject of any conversation the characters would only refer to it as "our city" or "the city" or "Captain Marvel's city" or something along those lines. An additional indication is that every time that a specific city needed to appear, the writers would make it explicitly clear that the heroes had traveled there. This is most evident in "Captain Marvel's tour of the cities", a series of stories starting on Captain Marvel Adventures Vol 1 24 and lasting many years, where in each issue the hero would visit a different American city. (I thought about making an article on it, but I'm not sure it counts as a proper arc worth having it) In issue 24 he visits Minneapolis, in the next one Detroit, then Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Denver, and so forth. Each episode has him visit the city landmarks, meet real life personalities such as the mayor, and then have an adventure there which may or may not tie to the city's history. Having visited dozens of cities, while not every single American metropolis is necessarily checked off the list, the intention of the writers to set the series in an unspecified fictional city is clear. So when the Who's Who volume (or wherever its first mention was) first introduced "Fawcett City" it didn't make up the Marvel Family city, it only gave it a name.--Kombatgod (talk) 16:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)