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  • Katana's style oozes inspiration, greatness, and righteous awesomeness.

    Sign the petition for a stand alone Katana film: https://www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-we-want-a-standalone-katana-movie

    As presented in Suicide Squad, she has a major life goal she has thrown her life into and she is ready to hack and slash her way through everything that gets in the way.

    Her ideals bring into question the mediocre pursuits of the world, and she pursues her commitment with steely resolve that makes me want to see more! Her character wakes me up and inspires me to look at things that are beyond my familiarity or even understanding.

    Many of the DCEU characters have wrestled with their ideals (Deadshot with his daughter, among others), but they seem to be keeping them at arms length. Katana is crazy and willing to dive head long into them. She is up front about letting people know that even while she is comfortable having a drink with the villains, she's not blotting out the searing cuts she has emblazed into her soul.\

    Katana is an untapped mine of interesting stories and surprises waiting to draw in long time DC fans as well as broader audiences who see themselves stumbling through their days half forgetting what used to drive them.

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    • Katana was one of the most useless additions to SS. Why would she need her own movie?

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    • Where's the petition to stop the DCEU?

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    • @Tupka217: I'll give you that it seemed kind of ridiculous to see Katana. I had been reading about it a bit, and thought, "She's not a bad guy. What is she doing here?". Flag certainly didn't need a body guard ... but having her character play off the others did a lot to bring to the surface how each one was looking at the world through their own perspective and the things that were simmering inside.

      People didn't go to see SS because they wanted to see something useful. If someone wants plot mechanisms with arms and legs they could start a a Black Widow standalone movie petition, or something else Marvely. DC has always been character-centric.

      People don't remember Star Wars because it had a good plot. If anything it was kind of sub-par because the death star could have just warped over to Yavin right away. Or they could have used a single space ship to pull out of light speed and destroy the planet by hitting it at that speed (ask a physics person). Star Wars inspired because Darth Vader in his evil found a greatness that far surpassed the shabby achievement of common people and Luke's ability to overcome his attachments and believe in people in spite of their past. (OK, some flashy swords mixed in).

      In SS they really parade around Margot Robbie's body and the prison goons drool all over her. So I asked myself, "Were the producers thinking I would go see a movie just to see MR with some glib, semi-sarcasm mixed in as a substitute for irony?" Flag and Deadshot went a long way to turn that question I had around, but Katana did it all by herself and she could hold a movie all by herself.

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    • One of the movie's many faults was that there were too many characters. It could've easily done without Katana, Killer Croc, GQ and those army redshirts that don't even get names. If they only exist so others can interact with them, that's just lazy writing.

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    • Usually when a movie has a broad number of characters they are not presented very deeply, so I think you have a case there. Very hard to do anything awesome after four or five characters like Spiderman 3 (exceptions do exist like Hamlet, the Force Awakens, maybe the Avengers, but I could have done with less characters in each of them). A lot of characters is, unfortunately, inseparable from the essential premise of the Suicide Squad (which predates the movie, of course). That's part of why I'd like to see Katana in her own thing. I think they worked around it fairly well ... but it was clearly a challenge for the writers.

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    • "Ask a physics person."

      You mean a "physicist?" Or is that word too "flashy?"

      Star Wars has a classic plot. Your esoteric scientific "plot holes" don't detract from the core themes. And you bring up characterisation but then give examples of story, e.g. Luke's call to adventure, overcoming adversity. These are standard plot points in a story arc.

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    • @Arise: Ah, I see what you did there. Perhaps "physics person" is part of my antics like the flashy swords in Star Wars. In its day the lightsabers turned off a lot of classical theater types (even Alec McGuiness), and perhaps I thought I had gotten away with more than I could.

      I give you credit for daring to put time into a well written post where few eyes roam. Perhaps you are overlooked in the daily steps you take in your visible role through life while privately aspiring to reveal something that breaks through the ocean of mediocrity out there in the world.

      I agree 'do no harm' should come first for films (a recommendation that was quickly swatted away for BVS to be sure -if it ever came up) ... but in this universe, perhaps we can have greater clarity of what it means to be authentic when we are up to our knees in cash grabs.

      As for the scientific esoteric plot holes, you and I are saying the same thing. Bill Nye (who I have fond memories of) rants against The Force Awakens because of its scientific holes, but that film is going to be remembered long after Nye is gone. I don't believe the Menorah stayed lit as long as they say, but the message of purity (how seldom it comes up these days) refreshes my appetites for the lack of a better word.

      I can't help but recall the writings of Doyle, who -although working in a field rife with forensic details- managed to drawn in the mysterious and unexplainable corners of life into his work.

      If you are suggesting the development of the character can itself be the plot, well, yes! It sure can be. This was perhaps 60% of what made the original Karate Kid such a good movie. Your average studio execs question the attention span of an audience asked to sit through the hard knocks and subtle reflections of a suffering character in this generation. There are more fantasy films in the 21st century than you can shake a stick at because people would rather dwell in far fetched stories than explore the (tedious! meticulous!) choices they have been afforded in their own life.

      Perhaps I am selling out, but I would rather have some action where the main character has some brief glimpse into his own longings as he or she overcomes his hardships. That way I can latch onto that and tell myself I am walking out of the theater with something while the critics affect over the fau pauxs and unprofessionalisms and the box office coarsely weighs in.

      That being said, although there are plot points in Wile E. Coyote vs. the Road Runner, we don't really see much into these characters, and in the end the characters are just plot devices wrapped around nothing. Looney Tunes are good for a laugh, but, as the Hebrew saying goes, can disguise a lot of hard and ugly things inside (I am talking about in the heart of the one who laughs or really anyone who owns that medium). So the way I see it even though character development is very connected to story points these are very separate things.

      Please speak up (and Arise!) where I am wandering from something important as you have shown you are capable of doing.

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    • She only had like five lines in Suicide Squad. I haven't seen anything from her that makes me want to see more.

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    • Did you find yourself listening to Lex Luthor in BVS thinking, "Ah! Now here is a solid person I can recognize! Someone with a lot of lines."

      Batman doesn't usually have a lot to say, especially in TAS. I also refer you to Sarah Conner, Tarquinius Superbus, and Groot.

      What Katana failed to say in language she said in style and, well ... with her Katana.

      Multun, non multa ...

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    • Micahraleigh wrote: Did you find yourself listening to Lex Luthor in BVS thinking, "Ah! Now here is a solid person I can recognize! Someone with a lot of lines."

      Batman doesn't usually have a lot to say, especially in TAS. I also refer you to Sarah Conner, Tarquinius Superbus, and Groot.

      What Katana failed to say in language she said in style and, well ... with her Katana.

      Multun, non multa ...

      I just rewatched the movie, and Katana really was a non-factor. She had almost no dialogue, only a few mentions of her back story, zero character development, and her Soultaker sword wasn't even seen taking any souls. I'd much rather see a Deadshot or Harley Quinn movie first.

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    • Props for re-watching the movie ... We don't know much about Yoda or Rey's back story either. If you are looking for more of a back story you should sign my petition ;) FWIW the Katana actress (Karen Fukuhara) is asking to reach into her backstory for SS2. Not surprising. I would sign a dead shot petition as well, although not because he was prominent in SS. I found his character complex and relateable ... He seemed to be trying to dig his life out of the abyss he left it in. HQ just seems to do whatever enters her mind, although the carve the heart thing out was excellent and she seemed to make a couple realizations about herself toward the end.

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    • Micahraleigh wrote: Props for re-watching the movie ... We don't know much about Yoda or Rey's back story either. If you are looking for more of a back story you should sign my petition ;) FWIW the Katana actress (Karen Fukuhara) is asking to reach into her backstory for SS2. Not surprising. I would sign a dead shot petition as well, although not because he was prominent in SS. I found his character complex and relateable ... He seemed to be trying to dig his life out of the abyss he left it in. HQ just seems to do whatever enters her mind, although the carve the heart thing out was excellent and she seemed to make a couple realizations about herself toward the end.

      Comparing Rey and Yoda with Katana is ridiculous. Rey is the main character of her movie, and Yoda had many memorable lines. I like Katana as a character, but in SS she had very few lines and she made almost no impression on me. They've done nothing to make me care about her so far. Deadshot was pretty good, but I'd prefer that they focus on more important characters instead. And HQ was alright, but I don't like the direction they're taking her character in.

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    • Deadshot was memorable, but he was memorable for being Will Smith, not Deadshot.

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    • Tupka217 wrote: Deadshot was memorable, but he was memorable for being Will Smith, not Deadshot.

      Yeah, that is true. I haven't read many comics with Deadshot, so I didn't have much to judge his portrayal on, but I could tell it was just Smith acting like he always does. Still, I found his fun and funny. He was probably my favorite part of the movie.

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    • My wife said it was incredible someone re-watched SS because of the Katana petition. I didn’t say Katana was the same as Rey and Yoda, only that the premise that having a backstory made a character worthy of their own film was flawed. Memorable lines is a good indicator, although in the ear of the beholder or whatever the saying is there.

      As for Will Smith, his characters tack pretty close together. I’m not sure he’s ever portrayed an assassin before. The collision between his personal and professional lives is interesting and something ordinary people can relate to. I’m looking forward to seeing how he navigates that.

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    • Wally never said he watched the movie again because of your petition. Probably just coincidence.

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    • Micahraleigh wrote: My wife said it was incredible someone re-watched SS because of the Katana petition. I didn’t say Katana was the same as Rey and Yoda, only that the premise that having a backstory made a character worthy of their own film was flawed. Memorable lines is a good indicator, although in the ear of the beholder or whatever the saying is there.

      As for Will Smith, his characters tack pretty close together. I’m not sure he’s ever portrayed an assassin before. The collision between his personal and professional lives is interesting and something ordinary people can relate to. I’m looking forward to seeing how he navigates that.

      Honestly, it wasn't your petition that convinced me to rewatch it. That just happened to be the day the movie arrived from Amazon. I did take your petition into account while I was watching, though. The thing is, Katana had some cool action scenes, but she had only a single line in English. And a few of her lines weren't even subtitled. It wasn't that she was bad, she just didn't do anything to make me interested in her character.

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